Episode 4: Living Alone, Loving It, Loving You

Hello friends,

What's the Topic?  In this episode, the dynamic duo, Jazz and Chris, talk about living alone. They cover it all, from how to make sure your home is safe and secure to all the benefits of living alone. The ladies want you, dear listeners, to know that living alone does not mean you're lonely. Love yourself.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

All right. Hello everyone. It's Jazz and Chris. You know what time it is.

SPEAKER_00 0:07

What's the topic? Episode four. Welcome everybody. Welcome. So um today's topic, Chris. Um, I was thinking we'd talk about living alone. That sounds great. I have plenty of lived experience in that area. Uh a lot to say about that. So yeah, let's do it. All right, awesome. And the reason why I kind of wanted to talk about living alone um has a lot to do with uh the difference between living alone and being okay. And living alone and loneliness. Yeah. Alone and lonely are not the same thing. Exactly. So I I really want to focus on living alone and not loneliness.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Okay. So let's make that clear. We're talking about living alone, but that's not synonymous with being lonely. Exactly. Okay, gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Um, and I want to talk about the um I I actually dug in a little bit because I was like, okay, tips to our listeners out there in the world, down there in Texas and California and in the Midwest. Hi, shout out to Iowa. Hi, out to Iowa, shout out to Iowa here. Um, but I wanted to kind of talk about uh start off with uh safety tips. Um and I know a lot of this is common sense, but safety tips about living alone or when you live alone. Okay um in the in this age, you know, everybody should have access to some sort of uh camera system.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Oh, like a surveillance camera, a ring, what do you call it?

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Ring camera, yeah, doorbell, doorbell camera, but also consider having a camera internal to your home um in a um high traffic area, you know, like in the hallway, in the home door for the front door in the kitchen, or a lot of homes now have like open floor plans. So there's like the living room area. Gosh, I wish I had that floor plan.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

The 50s style ranch. There's nothing open about it.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

But but just consider having you know some sort of indoor camera also, um, not just the one that's outside on the door, okay front or back door.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

So can you say a little bit more about what that would give you? Because I automatically think, well, then like everything I'm doing at home is being recorded.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

And well, you technically you can turn it off um during the day when you're in the house, okay, you know, with yourself living your life. But I'm thinking of it more about when you go to bed at night. Okay. Yeah. Right? If you turn on um your indoor camera when you go to your bed to bed at night, it should trigger if they see the moment, if they see movement in your living room or whatever. And I think that's a a nice alternative if you don't have like a safety equipment or security system set up on your doors and windows or whatever. Um, you can see who's in your house in your living room. Yeah. Um you'll get the alert on your phone, you know. So then maybe you're in your bedroom, you'll be able to call the police or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Yeah, no, good idea. But yeah, I wouldn't think of that.

SPEAKER_00 3:37

Yeah, yeah, just just something. I think a lot of people have the camera on their uh front door for which is great. Yeah, but someone who wants to do you harm, don't necessarily come through the front door.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

Yeah, there are a lot of smart criminals out there. I mean, they're like climbing up basement window or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:57

So a few safety uh tips uh in general. Um, one, um, you know, break up your routine when you're coming home. Um, don't just, you know, say, oh, I'm leaving work or and I'm gonna leave work at five and I'm gonna take this particular route and I'm gonna be home at 5.13. Change a mix it up, okay. Uh again, uh just something to keep to keep in mind. Don't have a set routine. Um, secure um vulnerable areas, so like windows, blind, curtains, yeah, and like even plantings in front of window.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

I mean, it's enough of a deterrent that you know it could help you um hear if someone's trying to do something, you know.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Exactly, exactly. If they come through the window and you have a plant, they might knock the plant over, or you know, just just um something have a safety app so or have emergency contact or something that in the middle of the night, if something happened, you can just hit that button, okay, yeah, or or send a quick message or whatever it is uh to someone. Um uh in um as Chris knew, um I'm one of my homes. I one of my Jillsman has more than anyway, moving on.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

Um uh oh, where we're recording uh in the lobby, someone has like a Bernie's mountain dog puppy, and it's like the cutest thing. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

Dogs are good for security uh when you they are so um short of having a dog. If you can't get a dog, or you're like me who have issues with unconfined creatures, yes, true, you know, uh except for buddy, may he rest in peace. Oh my gosh, the only dog ever loved. But um uh what I was saying is um in-home security system uh is also uh again something to consider. And um with a overall home security system where the alarm is set up on your windows and doors and some and you know, internal camera, it can also be voice activated.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

So you can it's not just like somebody opens the window and it goes off.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

Exactly. It's it's not like just somebody open the window and it goes off. You can actually have like emergency words that the system will pick up or safety words. So I'll give you an example. Um my home uh security system is set up that uh if the alarm goes off, uh I get called not only by the security system, but but by the local police. And uh when they call me, I have to say my safety word. Oh, they they know the home security, yeah, they know my safety word. So they've core uh coordinated with the police. Okay, got it. So then um I would have to like the police will come back is automatically alerted to come to the home. And um, in order for me to tell them I'm okay I'm okay, I have to say what my safety word is, and then they'll be like, you know, the home security system is like okay, we're gonna notify the police that you're all right, but they still might show up to the house and just you know the handset. Yeah. So um I think it was a couple months ago um that my front door alarm went off and my and everything is linked together. So it's linked to my phone, it's linked to the blowing up. Everything is like blowing up, and it's you know, it's like the alarms going off saying the front door open, front door open like happening. And and like alert, alert, exactly. And then all of a sudden, here I get a phone call from the Hume security system saying, hello, Miss Blah blah blah blah. Um, are you all right? And is everything going on? Is are you okay? What's what's your um what's your safety word if you're all right? Um you know, or and then they were like, Well, the local police has been dispatched to your location and we need to, you know, uh tell them not to show up or you know, and so then I was like, this is my blah blah blah. And then the police call me and then and they say, Hey, Miss blah blah blah. And we've got an alert on your home, are you all right? And I was like, Oh, yeah, the door, I don't know why the alarm went off, da da da like like all of this kind of stuff. And I've like, you know, it's never happened before, which has been good, but it's nice to just know that the process works actually works, yeah. When you don't need it, when I don't need it, yeah. That's like a you know, because again, you know, I'm paying whatever amount it is for to have a home security system, so it's nice to work know that it works. And I was like, I was like, oh in the event, you know, the door uh did get broken into or the window got broken into, and I was incapacitated in some way.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

They're gonna come and investigate.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Yeah, they're at least gonna come find my dead body. And well, you want your family to have closure, so that's also important, yeah. And they're gonna have video of whatever it is, because that's the other thing to be mindful of. Um, be mindful of where your video is being stored. Some um security system. You mean like on the cloud where it's saved? Yeah, make sure it's it's saved in some kind of some kind of earth external.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Oh, right. Because if someone's breaking in, they could get the what do you call it, the external drive or wherever you saved it. Wherever you saved it.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

But if it's stored in the cloud or stored with whatever the home security system is, at least you know there'll be a recording of whatever's going on. Right, yeah, you know, that's that's there. And you have access or your family should also have access to you know, view the home security thing. Right. So that's another tip. Make sure at least one um member of your family, somebody you trust, knows the codes for everything to your security system, um, online or offline, or have the ability to go in there and pull up some of this information. Good point, good point.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Because it's like um, you know, when people have been murdered and their family members want to go into their Facebook account to see, you know, who they were communicating with, and the police are like, we can't make them open it up for you.

SPEAKER_00 11:00

Exactly, exactly. So again, you know, make sure you have at least one individual that you trust enough to say, okay, here are the code the security code to the home, here's the code to the camera, here's you know, my online stuff. Uh again, yeah, you know, someone you trust, but make sure um again, it's not necessarily um you being lonely, but because you're living alone, make sure somebody is aware of certain things. Yes. If you're planning on going on trips, right, yeah, and you're living alone, make some make sure somebody has an agenda. This is where you're going to be, this is who you're going to be with. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

You know, that's kind of so if something goes wrong, they'll know, like, okay, you were supposed to come back and it's been like two days and you're not here. Something's gone on.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Yeah, exactly. Some something's going on.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Um, a friend of mine uh last summer went on like an extended trip. She lives alone, and she actually called her local police department and let them know she was gonna be gone. And they apparently they do their rounds more often. Wow. And she even told them, like, okay, my kids will be coming by, these are their vehicles. If you see those, that's not suspicious. So I'm not sure if that's just specific to the police station or police force where she lives, but maybe something to check out, like in your area if you're gonna be gone, you know. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:37

I mean, we do it with the mail, right?

SPEAKER_01 12:39

Yeah, why not do it with the whole house? Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

No, that's an that's an awesome tip. Um, I didn't think about that.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't have either.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

I yeah, I mean I was surprised, but yeah, that's great. Okay. Um, and it goes to like the other tip here is let your neighbors know, you know, let your neighbors know that you're gonna be away for a little bit and they can help, you know, keep an eye on the home.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Yeah, neighbors are really good for that kind of stuff because they know your routines, even if you don't like it, like they they get to know them. So yeah, they're good at um uh identifying when something's out of the something doesn't look right, they'll probably know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:24

Exactly. Um, I'm sure everybody has uh an emergency contact somewhere in their phone or listed someplace. You may want to also have an emergency contact list somewhere posted in your in your home, in your kitchen, on the refrigerator, on the wall, or or whatever, you know, have a list saying, you know, emergency contact, sister, and then brother, or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

Almost not for you, because you know who they are, but like if you become incapacitated and first responders or your neighbor, whoever comes over, they're like, Who do I call? You know, and if they can't find someone, that's makes it so make it easy for people to help you in the event of an emergency, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Which goes to another's Chris mentioned emergency, have an emergency kit. You know, I think most people think of like just have like a first aid kit in their house. Um, but have uh make sure there's a fire extinguisher in your home. Everybody should have a fire extinguisher. Make sure there's a flashlight, not just battery flashlight, but crank, you know, those plane, yeah, those flashlights. Also a radio, a crank radio. Um, in addition to, you know, the regular first aid kit that may contain like bandage, band-aid, and you know, some ointments or whatever. Um, plan on having maybe a more industrial first aid kit.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

So um, just a little bit of a sidebar, Jasmine. Like, when would you need this emergency kit?

SPEAKER_00 15:00

You'll need them in an emergency.

SPEAKER_01 15:02

Well, but like what kind of an emergency? Like a nuclear holocaust are we talking about?

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Prepper level emergency.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

I'm talking about if someone, um, what do you call it?

SPEAKER_00 15:14

Like when they maybe somebody after you're hostage or something. Yeah, or or you get you know, someone gets serious, someone you have in a barbecue in your backyard, and uh somebody gets seriously caught with a knife. You don't know what to think about that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

I was on the intruder on the intruder angle.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Yeah, or maybe, yeah, maybe somebody gets injured, like a family member, or you yourself get injured because of an intruder and you need to, you know, stop a bleeding, or you know, you know, yeah. You know, maybe there's an impromptu blizzard and you're like, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 15:49

Yeah. And I feel like, you know, that's the thing about like a first aid kit or insurance, yeah, you know, like health insurance or car insurance. You know, it's like, oh well, I'm never gonna need it. But when you need it, you need it, you know. Exactly. Um just have it ready. Have it ready.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

I mean, everybody should have like jumper cables in your car. Yeah, right. Yeah. Or if you don't have, or maybe you have one of those systems that has the battery and jumper cable ready, so you can jumpstart your own car, you know, whatever. So just think about, you know, again, it's I think most homes uh have a uh first aid kit, right? Most people have like a first aid kit that have like okay, I know what Chris is getting.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

Burglars out there, come to my house. There's no deterrents, uh, you can kill us, nobody can stop the bleeding.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

Um please don't do that. But um, but yeah, just some kind of uh again, emergency um uh supplies. Okay, you know, I'm not talking prepper level stuff, okay. Not like, yeah, what do you call the survivalist, yeah, not like that level kind of stuff, but have maybe a more industrial uh emergency kit stuff that's a little bit beyond the these are just some band-aid and gauze, right? Just uh you know, a little bit something a little bit more, you know, sturdy.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Okay, Jasmine, would it be okay if we kind of um veered a little bit and talked about some other things about living alone, like the benefits of living alone? Um now that I don't live alone, no, and I I love my family, I do, and I I'll talk about that maybe in a little bit, but um when you go from living alone to living with two other people in my case, you all of a sudden you understand all those benefits or um things you didn't even realize, like you're the only one making a decision on everything in your house. And when there's other people, you know, it it's a whole thing. Um, but I mean living alone, obviously you can do whatever you want, you know, you don't need to tell anybody what time you're getting back. Um, if you wanna uh paint your walls, like you don't have to like agree on a color, you know. Um, nobody else's the dishes are always a thing. I don't know why. Like dishes are such a big deal. Um but you don't have to do other people's dishes, you know. If you mess up the dishes, you know you're gonna have to wash them, but you're not gonna yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, but so those are kind of the little thing, but what about the bigger things about living alone, the benefits, yes?

SPEAKER_00 18:43

Um, you get to understand yourself and know yourself better. Yes, yeah, you know, you truly get to know what you like and what you dislike. And the reason why I say what you like and you dislike, because again, there's a difference between living alone and loneliness. So even though you live alone, you should still have um social friends. Hopefully, yeah, like a support system, a support system, people that you interact with, whether you go to movies or or dinner or whatever. But in those interactions with other people, you get to be an observer. Yeah. Right? And you get to learn from your friends and family things you like or you don't like and things you want or you don't want. So I don't know about you, but typically when I like have um gone back home after being in a social environment, I kind of redigest the whole night or the whole situation.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

Yeah, I relive it in my yeah, and I should have said this.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Yeah, you go with like, oh, I should have said this, or you go like, oh, I didn't really like that, or this person wasn't just like yeah, so you get to truly understand, like, from observing other people interaction what you like and you don't like about yourself, right? So I think that's one of the the big perks about um living alone. Living alone, like you said, you don't have the stress of having to please others around you, you know, to to say, okay, I don't need to get someone else's approval on me doing XYZ. If I want to go to the movies, I'll go to the movies. I don't need to have the discussion of what time, what we watch, do we get popcorn, non-popcorn? Yeah, you don't have to do any of that. Right, you know, you you just do it, and then when you're in the house and you're like, okay, I want to watch something online or stream and I want to stay up all night and do it. You can do it. Yeah, you know, yeah. You if you're like, oh, I I I feel like cooking a 10-course meal, yeah, go ahead and cook it. Or I feel like experimenting with making something new, go ahead and do it. Yeah, you know, and at any time of the day, too. You don't have to work around other people's schedules. But exactly, you don't have that additional pressure that comes with um having somebody else taking having to take it. I don't say this, I don't want this to come across as bad, but you don't have that additional pressure of having to take somebody else's perspective into consideration. Yeah, you know, you know what you want to do, right? You know what would make you feel good, you know what you want to be the end result, so you just do it. Just do it, yeah. You just do it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Yeah, and the other thing, Jasmine, you know, when you live alone um and you have those social interactions you talked about, you know, like you you go out for dinner, you have a happy hour, you know, you go to a festival together or whatever it is, or you go to Hawaii for a week. Um you decide the time you spend with other people. And when you're not out doing those things, you're with yourself. But when you live with other people, You can't decide when you interact with them because that's where they live and they're there. Exactly. That really requires it it's difficult. It requires a lot of compromise. You have to know what you like, what you can tolerate, you know, like all those kinds of things. All those things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

So you know, so there's uh for me, um I live alone, but not really live alone. And I say this because you know, I I've always been one of uh understanding my space and needing my space. So um I've always done like what I would call like a Jasmine sabbatical. Okay, and some people might think this is uh unbefitting of someone who's like a parent or spouse or whatever, but it goes along with um understanding yourself, having a good mindset. I would I would go on the uh sabbaticals where I would wait like from your family kind of or from life, from my family, okay. All of it, I I would, you know, whether it's just saying I'm gonna spend a night alone in the hotel, bro. Yeah, yeah. And then just decompress. I would just, you know, yeah, say, okay, I'm going on. And I had a uh my spouse was amazing just say to say, okay, you understood, understood me, understood that I needed this, understood that this is who I am, you know, this is you know, me knowing myself and knowing that this is what I needed to recharge.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

Yeah, I needed some alone time. Yeah. And I think that's really healthy. You know, it's not it's not negative for the other people, you know, it's not like I want to get away from you. It's like I need time for myself, you know, because you can't be together all the time. You need time for yourself, and you know, every person is different, and some people need more alone time than others, you know.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

So and and you know, again, my partner is amazing and was like because the alone time for me was alone time for them. Yeah, exactly. So it was like mutually beneficial. So exactly. So and it wasn't like um, you know, being alone time that I was gone for like months on end. Right, right. It was just like, you know, a learned time to reset, to know who I am, to process and and to recharge. Because when when I am subtle, I or with anyone is more subtle and uh and know who they are, know what's going on, being able to manage their stress, their life, they were a better person for everybody else around them.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

That's true. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

So you know, for me to be at my 110%, which I'm always at, I do realize that on occasion I need my alone time. Um, I would have to say right now, with you know, kids are grown and all this other stuff. I I'm technically alone, but not alone. So now I'm just like, oh my goodness, this is what do I do? Oh, I'm doing so much stuff. Yeah, yeah. But but but again, you know, it's the difference between loneliness, being alone, understanding yourself, understanding when you do desire to have some of that social interaction. There is absolutely nothing wrong with just getting up and going to a movie or going out to a restaurant by yourself, yeah. By yourself, it's okay, people. It's okay. Going to a show, going to a festival, going to a farmer's market, yeah, going on a trip by yourself, whatever it is, it is okay. Do not feel ashamed or or don't feel like you're missing out or anything. The main thing is you know, enjoy your life, yeah, know who you are. So again, enjoy being alone.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

And I think that's when you can truly be happy when you're good with sitting with yourself being alone. Because I do know a lot of people who they just have to be with other people all the time, and I think it's maybe subconsciously like they're not um they're not comfortable with like digging into what's yes down there, deep down, you know. Because when you're busy, you don't have time to think about that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Yeah, one of the other great things about um living alone is crying when you ever when you want to cry.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Oh, yeah, which is important if we uh refer back to our first episode on menopause.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

You might need to do that every day. Yeah, so it's you know, there's absolutely nothing wrong also with sitting on the couch and just having a good cry. Now, there is something wrong if you do it all the time, yeah, and you're not dealing with whatever's triggering you for why you're crying. True. But if you need to just decompress and you know have a good cry, one of those good old ugly, dirty cries, yeah, you can go ahead and do that and then be like, okay, all right.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Because remember, like when you were a kid and you were crying and then you, you know, you stop and you're like, you know, but like think of the feeling. Yeah, I do too. Um, but like think of it, it's it's such a relief. You always feel better, like things are, you know, things are manageable after you've kind of had that cry. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

And while you're crying, you map yourself out that plan to say, okay, this is what I'm gonna do. Yeah. And then you start, you know, laying your plan out and taking one step at a time and and do it again.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Looks like you have some closing tips for us, maybe just like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. So we touched on like camera, home security, um, social media, so digital um identity.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

Yeah, that's another thing. Like, don't announce on social media that you're gonna be gone. Like, I mean, I know it's maybe to some people it seems excessive, but there are people that would look for that and then use it to their advantage.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

Yeah, um, you may want to consider consider doing some sort of um what like personal safety or protective meditation training. Okay, you know, some sort of um, you know, something like that. Yeah, self-defense class or something like that. Um, consider having with you some sort of personal safety device, pepper spray, pepper spray, or um one of those wonderful tools that looks like a pen and has a button that it's uh it pops out and it's a little blade. Oh, like a switch blade?

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Yeah, that's kind of James Bond-like. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

Or or even on your keychain, there's a whole bunch of things that you can um have on your keychain that um it could can be a safety device, personal safety device.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

Can I share a tip for folks? Um, I guess I haven't tried this, so maybe I shouldn't share it, but apparently it works. Like if you're in a situation with someone who's gonna attack you, if you squeeze their pinky together, like squeeze it really hard, it's uncomfortable enough, painful enough, but it's gonna kind of incapacitate him for a while. So if you're able to do that, you know, you don't freeze. Um, that might be a way to like buy yourself some time and get out of a sticky situation, you know, because like for myself, I yeah, I don't see myself, well, I shouldn't be saying this. I don't see myself having any protective stuff with me. So again, attack me. Um, but like, yeah, so if that's not right for you, maybe think about like the self-defense things, like tips to like yeah, fend off an intruder.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I think we touched on um staying connected or having you know, making somebody aware of you know safety information. Um Chris alluded to this one at the beginning. Get a pet, get a dog, maybe for many reasons. For many reasons, or or or a cat, you know. Um your neighbors would realize if your dog or your cat is suddenly making a lot of noise or or whatever. So um get a pet. Um make sure um your finances, you know, um budget information, um, some that is uh that's managed, you know. I'm not saying to share your finance information with everybody.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

But have like a power financial power of attorney or something.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

You could go that way. You make sure you have a will. I guess that's make sure you have a will, but uh uh again, living alone, create a budget because uh you never know. Yes, you're living alone, you don't need anybody to approve what you spend or what you buy, but you don't want to be spending all your money on the body.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

Yeah, because there's no one to be like, oh hey, what if you what are you even buying? You know, exactly. Where'd your whole paycheck go? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

You know,$400 to Amazon. What was that? Yeah, exactly. You have uh 200 bags. Um are you using all of them? Um, you know, do you need all of those for your shoes? You can only use one bag at a time. That's true. So there you go. Um, so that ties into kind of like uh spending your money wisely, I would just say smart shopping. Um, and lastly, we touched on the uh practice gratitude. Um, you know, have uh self-um-care, self-awareness. Um it's okay that you need your space, um, it's okay that you enjoy being alone. Um being alone has uh a certain level of freedom, so enjoy that and understand the difference between uh alone and loneliness.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Yeah, yeah, that's a good kind of like closing remark because when we said, you know, what's the topic living alone? I my mind went completely like to another place, but I I love the the way you've kind of laid things out. And yeah, I guess I just want to like encourage people to think about it a different like like being alone, being single, living alone, it's not it's not synonymous with like being a failure because you couldn't be with someone, like it's a choice as well. Um, and it doesn't mean you are alone, doesn't mean you don't have a support system, um, doesn't mean that you're not an awesome person because you are because obviously because you're listening to us, so we must be awesome. Yeah, yeah. So Jazz, um, maybe you're gonna help me out here because I got my phone where I can't reach it, but um jazz and Chris, we have uh we have an email address. Um technically challenged I'm asking you to find what our email address is.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Um I will not be able to let me do it.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

Maybe like search for yeah, I sent you an email. Like this is our podcast email address or something, if you can find that. You you did you did you you sent it, and I'm I'm gonna look for well if we can't find it, like with the magic of um audio editing. If I can figure that out, we could um like edit in at a later date. Um yeah, we could do that.

SPEAKER_00 33:55

Um, so just FYI to our listeners. I'm technology challenge. As Chris will know, it took me how many years to get a new phone.

SPEAKER_01 34:05

That's true. You had for a long time you had like a flip phone, yes. Yeah, and you you I I my perception is that you haven't fully embraced texting either. Although you do it.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

So perceptive that I know, right? I'm I text with one finger. So uh Chris, we'll we'll we'll post the email address out there.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

Yeah, we'll give you that. We'll give you that. But yeah, thanks for listening, everybody. Remember, you're not alone, we're with you.

SPEAKER_00 34:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 34:36

Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

So enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you for listening. And since I am alone, I'm going to go shopping. Have fun.

SPEAKER_01 34:47

Nobody's gonna judge what you buy, what you spend. So just me when I look at the bill. Good stuff. All right, we'll see you next time, folks. Okay, bye-bye.